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    Not Hockey - But Vintage and an iconic player, so I'm hoping that we can make an exception: I just received this beautiful card back from PSA. It received a numerical grade. Can anyone guess it?

    The imperfections on the back are from my scanner, and not on the card itself.

    For Puck_That, the answer is not a KSA 10, so don't bother with that guess.

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  • #2
    I say an 8

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    • #3
      I'll save my guess until I look at it on my desktop. Great looking card.
      I'm thinking you did very well Jeff.

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      • #4
        Impressive looking card! I would say either a 7 or 8. I'm curious and hope you don't come back and say a 4!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AANVJeff View Post

          For Puck_That, the answer is not a KSA 10, so don't bother with that guess.

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          What about KSA 11?

          The scans are too blurry, so it's hard to tell. I do see some white spots on the reverse side and since I never owned any cards from this particular issue, I am not sure if this is considered normal or not.

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          • #6
            Without further ado, here is the moment that we've all been waiting for!

            I'd like to thank Joe Orlando, Reza Tabatabai, and the person who processed my $22 grading fee for making all of my collecting dreams come true!
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            • #7
              OMG. WTH. Post better scans so we can see why please

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              • #8
                Pin Hole?

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                • #9
                  No pinhole. I used a loupe on the entire card and found nothing.

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                  • #10
                    I suggest you ask for an explaination on this. There has to be a major defect that we can't see to justify this grade. Even a crease would not make it that low!
                    ​My guess but I can't see on the scans is the card has waves from water damage, or maybe glue was removed with chemicals... In other words a card that was doctored, but it's just an opinion or a feeling.

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                    • prewar_collector
                      prewar_collector commented
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                      If glue was removed or card doctored the grade will be authentic altered

                    • rocket9richard
                      rocket9richard commented
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                      I've owned and seen numerous cards graded that were soaked in water or removed from scapbooks and glued removed with chemicals.
                      I had a wavy Orr RC that graded KSA8 and later cracked and graded PSA 3. Since it was not altered or modified in any way, it's normal it got a grade, but it was obvious that the card was put in water for a while! The card looked new but was probably in a sticky photo album before but not glued to it.
                      I have seen so many 51 Park removed from album with the glue removed and they where graded. They are not rare at all!

                  • #11
                    Originally posted by rocket9richard View Post
                    I suggest you ask for an explaination on this. There has to be a major defect that we can't see to justify this grade. Even a crease would not make it that low!
                    ​My guess but I can't see on the scans is the card has waves from water damage, or maybe glue was removed with chemicals... In other words a card that was doctored, but it's just an opinion or a feeling.
                    I am no expert in professional grading but a wavy card or water staining will not garner a PR 1. Also I would expect that the card would come back as altered and not encapsulated by PSA if there was evidence that it was doctored.

                    I would say maybe an error on their part? Nothing else makes sense. Just me two cents!

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                    • #12
                      The exact same card in the same grade. It's difficult to tell the two apart. Click image for larger version

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                      • #13
                        I think they forgot a zero after your grade of 1 and spelled GEM MINT incorrectly!!

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                        • #14
                          I submitted this card with the expectation that it would be an 8 with an outside shot at an 8.5. I'm going to take it to The National so that I can speak with Joe Orlando about this issue. I hope that it is just a keystroke error in entering the grade into the system. There was a thread on the Collectors Universe forum where PSA gave a PSA 10 to a 1956 Willie Mays card that was obviously in the 3-4 range, so that type of error certainly can happen. That's the only explanation that I can come up with. Needless to say, I was pretty surprised to see the result when the grade popped.

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                          • #15
                            Quite a shocker especially when you compare with the other PSA 1!
                            Hope thing will turn out well for you when you regrade. Let us know what PSA says.

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